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MEETING.[1. CALL TO ORDER]
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE APRIL 17TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE CITY OF AVONDALE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ORDER.MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER MCBURNEY PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER STANFIELD PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER JEWEL, PRESENT CHAIR, WHITE PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER GRIM AND AG CASTILLO HAVE AN EXCUSED ABSENCE FOR TONIGHT NIGHT.
[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
EVERYONE REVIEWED THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 20TH, 2024 MEETING? AND ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE.MAY I HAVE A MOTION WE'RE AWAITING FOR A SECOND? UH, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[a. Hermosa Ranch Technology Campus North – Major General Plan Amendment – Application PL-23-0299]
STAFF.MAY I HAVE A REPORT FOR ITEMS FOUR A AND FOUR B? UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THE ITEMS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING ARE THE HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS NORTH, UH, MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT REZONE.
THESE ARE APPLICATIONS PL 23 DASH 0 2 99 AND PL 23 DASH 300.
UH, THE PURPOSE OF THESE ITEMS IS TO RE, UH, REVIEW THE PROPOSED MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND PLANARY DEVELOPMENT REZONE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS THE SECOND OF TWO PLANNING COMMISSIONS, UH, REGARDING THE MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE FIRST HEARING OF THE PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT REZO.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD IN AVONDALE BOULEVARD, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 239 ACRES.
UH, THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED IN 2006 AND 2008.
IN TERMS OF THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH IS THE DEL DEL RIO RANCH SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST IS THE RACEWAY W RANCH RANCHOS SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION IN THE COUNTY.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH IS THE FUTURE SHADOW RIDGE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
UH, FURTHER TO THE SOUTH, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE SITE IS THE HERMOSA RANCH SOUTH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS, THE SIERRA ASTRA BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY.
AND THE SRP RUDD SUBSTATION TO THE WEST IS THE CANTATA RANCH SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION.
THESE ARE A COUPLE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
THE FIRST IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FORMER DAIRY FARM THAT'S THERE.
THE SECOND IS LOOKING SOUTH ALONG AVONDALE BOULEVARD SHOWING, UH, THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE COMMERCIAL SITE.
THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS FROM A STATE SLASH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO BUSINESS PARK, AND THEN TO INCREASE THE EXISTING LO LOCAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE FROM 16.45 TO APPROXIMATELY 28 ACRES.
ON YOUR MAP, YOU CAN SEE THE PALE YELLOW IS THE ESTATE SLASH SLOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE ORANGE IS THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PINK IS LOCAL COMMERCIAL, AND THEN THE PURPLE IS THE BUSINESS PARK.
THE REZONE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM THE DIAMOND P RANCH PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS THE PAD THAT YOU CAN SEE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, AS WELL AS THE FLEMING FARMS PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT IN BLUE AND AGRICULTURE IN GREEN TO THE HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS IN NORTH PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT.
THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICTS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT ARE COMMERCE PARK AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN SHOWING THE EIGHT BUILDINGS ON SITE AS WELL AS THE, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT THE IMMEDIATE CORNER OF THOSE TWO ROADS.
THE USES MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER ARE NARROWLY TAILORED TO ACHIEVE THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF DEVELOPING THAT SITE AS A TECHNOLOGY
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CAMPUS, WHILE ACHIEVING THE CITY'S GOALS OF HAVING A HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYMENT CENTER PROJECT THAT LIMITS THE POTENTIAL OFFSITE IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.UH, SOME HIGHLIGHTED DEVIATIONS FROM THIS PORTION OF THE SITE INCLUDE A INCREASED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 35 FEET TO 50 FEET, UH, INCREASING THE SCREENED, UH, EQUIPMENT ALLOWANCE ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDINGS FROM 50 15 TO 25 FEET, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHTS IN SOME AREAS OF 75 FEET.
INCREASING THE SETBACK ALONG THE EAST AND NORTH PROPERTY LINES FROM 25 FEET TO 100 FEET, UH, AND THEN INCREASING THE SETBACKS FROM ANY PROPERTY LINES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING FROM 50 FEET TO 230 FEET.
AND PRIMARILY THAT'LL BE ON THE WEST PROPERTY LINE.
IN THE COMMERCIAL, UH, PORTION, UH, THERE'S AN INCREASE OF BUILDING HEIGHT FROM 30 TO 40 FEET AND AN INCREASE IN BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FROM 15 TO 20 FEET.
THERE'S ALSO A REDUCED PARKING SETBACK DEVIATION, UH, REDUCING THE PARKING SETBACK FROM 30 TO 20 FEET.
AND THIS WOULD BE ALONG AVONDALE BOULEVARD AND LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS WITH THIS SITE PLAN.
UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, JUST KIND OF GOING OVER, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO THE AREAS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A, UM, LAND 35 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON BOTH SIDES OF AN EXISTING 180 FOOT POWER LINE CORRIDOR.
THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS ON BOTH SIDES WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO AN EXISTING SCREEN WALL THAT IT'S ON THE, UH, EAST SIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, SUBDIVISION ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDES.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A, UH, MULTI-USE TRAIL AND A SIDEWALK IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPING.
THAT'LL BE PROVIDED, UH, A 50 FOOT LANDSCAPE SETBACK ON THOSE SIDES OF THE ROAD.
AND THEN THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE'LL ALSO BE A 12 FOOT, UH, SECURITY FENCE SURROUNDING THE SITE.
UH, IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, AND SOME FOLLOW UP THAT WE'VE HAD WITH SOME CITIZENS, THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDED SOME VIEWSHED ANALYSIS THAT I WANT TO GO OVER.
UH, THESE ARE PRIMARILY LOCATED, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD.
SO THIS FIRST VIEW IS OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UH, AGAIN, THIS IS LOOKING JUST, UH, FROM THE NORTH SIDE OF LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD INTO, UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE DATA CENTER.
THIS IS VIEW FOUR ON THE VIEW SHED ANALYSIS.
THIS KIND OF SHOWS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THE DATA CENTERS WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THAT 12 FOOT SECURITY FENCE, AND THEN THE MULTI-USE TRAIL AND THE SIDEWALK, AS WELL AS WHAT THE LANDSCAPING, UH, WOULD LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S FULLY GROWN.
IN COMPARISON, UH, THE APPLICANTS PROVIDED, UH, WHAT A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION MAY LOOK LIKE, UH, IN COMPARISON TO THIS.
SO THESE IS ARE WHAT HOMES WOULD LOOK LIKE BUILT OUT AT TWO STORIES AND LOCATED AT A STANDARD SETBACK.
UH, FROM THE, FROM THAT RIGHT OF WAY, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL VIEW.
YOU CAN SEE THE DAIRY FARM IN THE BACKGROUND, UH, FROM LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD, SHOWING WHERE THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE LOCATED AND WHERE THAT LANDSCAPE SETBACK IS.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE WHAT THOSE DATA CENTER BUILDINGS WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THAT INCREASED SETBACK FROM LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD.
AND THEN WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE, UH, FROM THAT, UM, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
AND AGAIN, THESE VIEW ANALYSIS, UH, IMAGES ARE PROVIDED AS EXHIBIT G IN YOUR PACKET.
SO STAFF'S ANALYSIS FINDS THAT THE AMENDMENTS WILL FACILITATE EMPLOYMENT USES AND AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION AND SCALE WHERE ALTERNATIVES ARE NOT CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.
THE SITE'S CURRENT LAND USE DESIGNATION OF LOCAL COMMERCIAL ESTATE SLASH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, DID NOT ADVANCE THE EMPLOYMENT AND LAND USE GOALS OF THE 2030 GENERAL PLAN.
THIS SITE'S IDEALLY LOCATED ADJACENT TO SUPPORTIVE POWER AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF USES.
THE CURRENT GENERAL PLAN, UH, DOES NOT HAVE OTHER BP SITES, UH, WITH THIS, WITH THESE ADVANTAGES THAT ARE OF SUITABLE SIZE.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A 212 ACRE DATA CENTER PROJECT.
UH, THIS MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IMPROVES THE GENERAL PLAN BY INTRODUCING SUPPORTIVE LAND USES TO PLANNING AREAS DESIGNED TO ATTRACT EMPLOYMENT INVESTMENT.
UH, THIS AMENDMENT ALSO PROVIDES NEW BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE GROWING TECHNOLOGICAL
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MARKET THAT IS ALWAYS SEEKING ACCESS TO RELIABLE POWER.UH, THE ADDITION OF BUSINESS PARK LAND USES TO THE GENERAL PLAN REINFORCES AVONDALE'S, UH, ECONOMIC STABILITY AND SUSTAINABILITY IN ADDITION TO THE BUSINESS PARK, UH, AREA THAT'LL BE ADDED.
THERE'S ALSO AN INCREASED ACREAGE TO THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THIS SITE, UH, LOCATED DIRECTLY SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF AVONDALE BOULEVARD AND LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD.
UM, WE FEEL THAT THE STAFF FEELS THAT THIS WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IT'S EXPECTED THAT THE INCREASED ACREAGE WILL ALLOW FOR POTENTIAL GROCERY ANCHOR TO DEVELOP THE SITE, UH, AS A LOCAL SHOPPING CENTER AND THEN SERVE THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF AVONDALE.
AND JUST, UH, AS A REMINDER, THE WILCO COMMERCIAL IS INTENDED TO SERVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, UM, AND IT'S INTENDED TO PROVIDE THOSE TYPES OF GROCERY SERVICE AND RESTAURANT USES THAT, UH, SERVE THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, THIS PROPOSED MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WILL NOT RESULT IN LARGER OR MORE EXTENSIVE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, REPLACING RESIDENTIAL WITH EMPLOYMENT USES WILL LIKELY GENERATE LESS DEMAND FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES, AS THE DEVELOPER HAS INDICATED THAT PRIVATE SECURITY WILL BE UTILIZED ON SITE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE INTENDED USE FOR THE PROPERTY WILL ALSO RESULT IN LOWER WATER AND WASTEWATER DEMAND THAN THE CURRENT LAND USE CATEGORIES EXPECT.
UH, DETAILS OF THAT CAN BE FOUND IN THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NARRATIVE AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT'S PREPARED DOCUMENTS.
BUT BASED ON PRELIMINARY WATER AND WASTEWATER REPORTS, THE APPLICANT IS EXPECTED TO UTILIZE APPROXIMATELY 15% LESS WATER AND 51% LESS WASTEWATER THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED FOR THAT AREA.
UH, AND THAT'S AS PART OF THE CITY'S LONG TERM INTEGRATED UTILITY MASTER PLAN.
AS SHOWN IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDED STIPULATIONS WITH THE REZONE REQUEST, THE DEVELOPER WILL NOT BE PERMITTED TO USE, UH, MORE WATER OR SEWER CAPACITY THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED FOR.
AND OVERALL, THIS AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE AVONDALE GENERAL PLAN 2030.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE PAD REZONE ANALYSIS, UH, THE PROPOSED HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS, NORTH PAD IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATIONS OF BUSINESS PARK AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSED, UH, PAD IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE PAD REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DESIGN MANUALS, UH, AND THEN ANY OTHER APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS UNLESS OTHERWISE MODIFIED BY THE PROPOSED DEVIATIONS.
AND THEN ADEQUATE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT EITHER PRESENTLY EXISTS OR WILL BE CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPER AS PER STAFF'S RECOMMENDED STIPULATIONS.
UH, THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ARE REASONABLE TO ENSURE CONFORMANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND OTHER APPLICABLE CITY CODES ORDINANCES AND POLICIES.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OUTLINED IN THE PAD ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMMERCE PARK AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, UH, NOTED DEVIATIONS IN THE PAD NARRATIVE SERVED TO FOSTER COMPATIBILITY WITH EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND PROVIDE CON CONTINUITY WITH APPROVED EMPLOYMENT PROJECTS NEARBY.
AND THAT'S NAMELY THE HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS SOUTH IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING FOR THIS PROJECT WAS HELD AT CITY HALL ON JANUARY 30TH, 2024.
THERE WERE SEVEN ATTENDEES ASIDE FROM THE APPLICANT'S TEAM AND CITY STAFF, AS WELL AS ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
UH, DISCUSSION WAS PRIMARILY RELATED TO SECURITY CONCERNS WITH THE PROJECT, UH, THE POWER LINE CORRIDOR AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT AREA WAS PATROLLED.
UH, THE SCALE OF THE DATA CENTER WAS DISCUSSED AND SOME ELEVATIONS WERE SHOWN TO THE PUBLIC, UH, TO KIND OF ILLUSTRATE WHAT THE SCALE OF THOSE PROJECTS WAS GOING TO BE RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS WERE DISCUSSED, NAMELY THE TRAIL SIDEWALKS AND POTENTIAL ROADWAY EXPANSION.
THERE WAS EXTENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE NEED AND WANT OF THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING THAT AREA FOR A GROCERY ANCHOR TO BE DEVELOPED AT THAT SITE.
AND THEN THERE WAS ALSO SOME, UH, CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROJECT TIMELINE.
UH, AS PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT, THE CITY NOTIFIED THE REQUIRED AGENCIES AND BEGAN A 60 DAY REVIEW PROCESS.
SO FAR, RECEIVED TWO, WE'VE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS, UH, ONE FROM THE SOUTHWEST GAS CORPORATION AND ONE FROM THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
THEY BOTH INDICATED THAT THERE WERE NO CONFLICTS WITH THE PROJECT.
AND THEN TO DATE, 48 COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, UH, ON THE CITY'S AVONDALE CONNECT PLATFORM, MOST OF WHICH WERE GENERALLY OPPOSED TO THE PROJECT.
AND RESPONDENTS EXPRESSED THAT THE PROPERTY COULD BE BETTER UTILIZED AS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT, UH, AS A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT
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THAT PROVIDED GROCERY AND RESTAURANT OPTIONS FOR THE RESIDENTS.OTHERS ADDED THAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROJECT WAS ILL SUITED TO THE EXPANSION OF A LARGE SCALE EMPLOYMENT USE AND THAT THE PROJECT WE BE WOULD BE BETTER LOCATED AT A DIFFERENT SITE.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC IMPACTS, PROPERTY VALUES, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED WATER DEMANDS THAT COULD BE AFFECTED BY A DATA CENTER AND TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS.
UH, THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS EXHIBIT F IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, WITH, WITH THAT, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF ITEM FOUR A, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN 2030 WAYNE USE MAP DESIGNATION FROM ESTATE SLASH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL TO BUSINESS PARK AND LOCAL COMMERCIAL FOR ITEM FOUR B.
UH, STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF APPLICATION PL 23 DASH ZERO 300, WHICH IS A REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 239 GROSS ACRES FROM DIAMOND FROM THE DIAMOND P RANCH PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT, THE FLEMING FARMS PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT AND AGRICULTURAL TO THE HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS NORTH PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
DO YOU ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, I DO.
COMMISSIONER MCBURNEY, UH, I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THE, UH, WATER AND WASTE, UH, SPECS.
UH, I KNOW THAT THE, UH, REVIEW THAT YOU'VE, UH, PROVIDED US SHOWS THAT THERE'LL BE A LOWER WATER USAGE AND WASTEWATER, BUT THERE WAS ALSO A COMMENT IN THERE WHERE THEY COULD UP IT TO WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
IS THAT GONNA BE CAPPED AT THAT, THAT HIGHER AMOUNT? CORRECT.
SO AS I WAS STATING, THE THE ANTICIPATED DEMAND IS A 15% REDUCTION.
HOWEVER, THEY WILL NOT BE, THEY'RE STIPULATED UNDER OUR APPROVAL STIPULATIONS TO BE CAPPED, LIKE YOU SAID, AT THE WHAT'S CURRENTLY ALLOWED OR PLANNED FOR IN THE IOMP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE IT.
COMMISSIONER WARREN, I WOULD HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, SO YOU HAD SHOWED US THE NEW SCREENING THAT'S GONNA BE ALONG THE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS WITH THE TREES AND THE PLANTS.
DO YOU HAVE A LAND SCAPE TYPE OF ELEVATION WHERE YOU WOULD SHOW US HOW MANY TREES OR WITH THE SPACING AND SAME WITH THE PLANTS.
UH, SO A LANDSCAPE PLAN WASN'T NECESSARILY PROVIDED WITH THE APPLICANT'S SUBMISSIONS AND MAYBE THE, THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT.
UH, WHAT THEY DID PROVIDE FOR IN THEIR PLANNED AREA DEVELOPMENT NARRATIVE WAS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY'S REGULATIONS WITH REGARD TO LANDSCAPE DENSITY IN THOSE AREAS.
SO I BELIEVE, UH, IT'S ONE TREE AND 10 SHRUBS FOR EVERY 25 LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY.
UH, BUT I CAN GET EXACT, UH, NOTATIONS ON THAT.
I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THAT.
UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW WITH MANY OF THE HOMEOWNERS, THEY HAVE THAT AS A CONCERN.
AND IF YOU HAVE MORE TREES, MORE PLANTS, THAT'S GONNA PROVIDE MORE SCREENING ALONG THAT FENCING.
SO YOU, YOU'RE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THE, UH, WESTERN SIDE NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL, OR DO YOU MEAN ON BOTH? ON ALL SIDES.
ALL SIDES, BUT ESPECIALLY ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT HAS THE BIG POWER LINES.
I CAN GET SPECIFIC NUMBERS FOR YOU, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S FOR LAND USE BUFFERS.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE TREE AND 15 SHRUBS, BUT I CAN DOUBLE CHECK THAT FOR YOU.
AND THAT WAS PER 20 FEET WAS IT? OR 25 FEET? 25.
I HAVE A MR. STANFIELD, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID AN AWESOME JOB WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, YOU STRESS THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE, UM, SEVERAL GROCERY STORES AND RESTAURANTS IN THE AREA.
DO YOU KNOW, UM, WHO THAT WILL BE PERHAPS? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN THERE'S CHANGES, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR GROWTH, UM, THAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE IN PLACE, ESPECIALLY FOR FUTURE OR POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA.
AND THAT WAS PART OF STAFF'S ANALYSIS WAS THAT THE APPLICANT WAS INCREASING THAT ACREAGE FROM THE 16 ACRES TO THE 28 ACRES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING WITH POTENTIAL TENANTS.
UH, THE PRIMARY FOCUS FOR THIS PROJECT WAS TO, UH, UPDATE THE LAND USE TO REFLECT WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS TRYING TO DO IN THE DATA CENTER AREA, WHILE ALSO
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PROVIDING FOR A MORE, UH, MARKETABLE LOCAL COMMERCIAL AREA TO ENTICE POTENTIAL DEVELOPERS TO, UH, GO INTO THAT SPACE.SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO, UH, TENANT THAT STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT WILL MOVE INTO THAT, UH, SPACE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT BY EXPANDING THAT, THAT ACREAGE THAT THEY'LL ENTICE, UH, THAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THEN ALSO YOU STRESS THE FACT OF, UM, EMPLOYMENT INVESTMENT.
SO ARE THERE MAJOR COMPANIES POSSIBLY THAT MIKE WOULD, YOU KNOW, COME IN THE AREA? SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE ARE TENANTS LINED UP FOR THAT SPACE.
UM, WE'RE LIMITED ON WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCLOSE AT THIS POINT.
BUT, UH, THERE ARE POTENTIALLY UP TO 150, UM, HIGH PAYING DATA CENTER JOBS THAT'LL BE OCCUPYING THAT SPACE.
UM, THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANTS TOLD US.
UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS ABOUT WHO MIGHT ACTUALLY BE RUNNING THOSE, UH, DATA CENTERS, UM, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL BE ON SITE.
AND MY LAST, UM, QUESTION IS, UM, HAS A TRAFFIC STUDY BEEN COMPLETED ALREADY? SO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS COMPLETED FOR THIS SITE, UH, AND POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, UM, WHICH ARE STIPULATED IN THE APPROVAL HAVE BEEN TIED TO THAT TRAFFIC REPORT.
ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WILL BE PROVIDED WITH EACH BUILDING ITERATION, AND THEN IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE TIED TO, UH, THE TRIPS GENERATED FROM THOSE, UH, FROM THE BUILDING'S COMPLETION.
SO YES, WE HAVE DONE, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THE, THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDED THOSE NUMBERS.
UH, BUT THERE WILL BE MORE FORTHCOMING AS WE KIND OF GAUGE HOW MUCH ACTIVITY IS GENERATED BY EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND LASTLY, I FORGET WHAT BULLET IT WAS, BUT UM, SOMETHING TO DO WITH, UM, A RANGE FROM, IT'LL BE CHANGED FROM 50 TO 230 FEET.
IT WAS ON ONE OF THE LITTLE THINGS.
SO IT IS THE WESTERN PROPERTY.
DID YOU, WERE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THAT? YEAH, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT WAS THE REASON OR PURPOSE TO INCREASE IT FROM 50 TO 230 FEET, JUST TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
SO THERE'S AN EXISTING 180 FOOT POWER LINE CORRIDOR, UH, WITH, AS YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, THERE'S SOME, UH, TRANSMISSION LINES THAT GO THROUGH THAT SITE.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ESSENTIALLY PROVIDING IS FOR LANDSCAPED BUFFERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THOSE AT 35 FEET EACH.
SO IT JUST KIND OF, WITH THE 180 AND THEN THE 2 35 FOOT, IT COMES UP TO ABOUT 200 AND, UH, EXCUSE ME.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT 230 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK, UM, WOULD BE FROM THAT EXTERNAL WALL TO ANY POTENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE.
UM, BUT THEN THERE'S THAT ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE SETBACK AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I HAVE A COUPLE.
UM, SO PIGGYBACKING ON SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ALREADY ABOUT TRAFFIC TRAFFIC, IS IT FAIR TO CONCLUDE THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE LESS TRAFFIC WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT THAN IF IT WENT AHEAD AS CURRENTLY PLANNED FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL? SO I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO DEFER TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER ON THE SPECIFICS.
UH, BUT BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF ALL THE ANALYSIS BY STAFF, I BELIEVE THE POPULATION WOULD BE LOWER.
HOW THAT TRANSLATES TO EXACT TRIPS PER DAY WOULD BE PART OF A, A COMPARISON TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UM, MR. CORBIN, CITY MANAGER, YOUR MIC IS ON, SIR.
RON CORBIN, UH, CITY MANAGERS JUST SPOKE WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER.
THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS YES, LESS TRAFFIC.
SO THIS AMENDMENT WOULD MOST LIKELY GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN IF WE LEFT IT DEVELOPED IS ALL RESIDENTIAL.
UM, ALSO PIGGYBACKING ON ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL CORONER IS ALMOST DOUBLED FROM 16 ACRES TO 28.
AND IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THEY
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ALMOST DOUBLED THAT AREA.SO THAT LARGER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT CORNER AND COMING THERE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT WAS PART OF, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT CONVEYED TO STAFF.
AND THEN PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION AS WELL WAS THAT, UH, BY INCREASING THAT YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR, FOR MORE CLIENTS, MORE, UH, LARGER GROCERY ANCHORS TO COME A LARGER GROCERY ANCHOR.
UM, THERE WAS A BRIEF MENTION OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, DO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SOUTH SIDE OF LOWER BUCKEYE AND THE WEST SIDE OF AVONDALE WOULD BOTH GET, UH, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS? SO I CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN THAT LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD RIGHT NOW IS A TWO LANE ROAD.
UH, IT WOULD BE EXPANDED AT LEAST ON THE SOUTH SIDE TO F WHAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE A FOUR LANE HIGHWAY.
UH, THERE'S NO RAISED MEANING AT THAT SITE.
SO THERE WOULD BE, UH, THE TWO LANES ON THE SOUTH AND THEN, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WOULD, WOULD FOLLOW THAT.
THE, UH, AND OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HERE TO PROBABLY SHED SOME MORE LIGHT ON THAT.
AND THEN, UH, SAME STORY FOR, UH, AVONDALE BOULEVARD AS WELL.
UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO.
UM, LAWYER BHAI, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? UH, MY NAME IS, UH, RAJ THOM.
I'M THE SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER HERE.
UM, I REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY FOR THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, UM, SO THIS DEVELOPMENT VJA WILL DEVELOP THE, THE ROADWAY ON LOWER BA KAI AND ON DALE BOULEVARD TO MINOR, MINOR, UM, UM, ARTERIAL OR CROSS SECTION.
THAT MEANS WE WILL HAVE TWO THROUGH LANES, UM, IN EACH DIRECTION WITH A CENTER TURN LANE TWO, WHICH CENTER TURN LANE.
AND ALSO, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT UH, HUNDRED AND 19TH AND LOWER BUCKEYE AND, UM, AT AVONDALE AND MIAMI AVENUE, UH, WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
AND ALSO THERE WILL BE, UM, UH, DECELERATION LANES FOR ALL THEIR, UH, UH, ACCESS POINTS, UH, BOTH LEFT TURN AND RIGHT TURN.
THIS IS THE CURRENT VIEW AND, AND THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A DATA CENTER POSSIBLY.
AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE THAT IS PROJECTED WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF THIS BECAME RESIDENTIALLY DEVELOPED.
SO THESE LAST TWO WE JUST LOOKED AT ARE REALLY CONCEPTUAL OF WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH THE DATA CENTER AND WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT OWES MOSTLY TO THE INCREASED SETBACK THAT THE APPLICANT'S PROVIDING WITH THE DATA CENTER PROJECT VERSUS WHAT WOULD NORMALLY BE REQUIRED AS PART OF A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO RESIDENTIAL CAN COME UP ALMOST TO LOWER BUCKEYE WHERE THIS DATA CENTER'S GONNA BE SET BACK A HUNDRED FEET OR MORE, WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS.
I BELIEVE THE REDUCTION, I HAVE IT IN MY NOTES HERE.
IT, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN WHAT RESIDENTIAL IS, CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 20 FEET.
AND THEN WASN'T THERE ALSO, UM, TWO MORE VIEWS OF A DIFFERENT AREA ALONG? YEAH.
AND SO THAT'S THE CURRENT VIEW AND THEN WHAT IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH THE DATA CENTER AND WHAT THE VIEW WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT? CORRECT.
UM, ON THE ANALYSIS, WE WERE GIVEN THE PROPOSED MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, THIS IS A QUOTE, THE PROPOSED MAJOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD POSITIVELY INCREASE THE CITY'S ANTICIPATED TAX REVENUE.
THIS TAX REVENUE HELPS FUND CRITICAL SERVICES AND EXPENDITURES IN THE COMMUNITY.
CAN YOU SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC IF THE CITY HAS PROJECTED A DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THESE INCREASED TAX REVENUES? AND IF SO, WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE? SO IN COMPARISON TO SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, WE PROJECT THAT IT'LL BE SEVERAL MILLION, UH, DOLLARS.
HOWEVER, UH, THE SPECIFICS OF THAT ARE VERY, UM, ARE, THEY'RE VERY FLUID.
AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL
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USE AND HOW SRP UH, PROVIDES THEIR RATES AND THEN THE TAX REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THAT.BUT, UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S PROBABLY BETTER SUITED TO ANSWER THE SPECIFICS ON THAT.
UM, BUT THE CITY DOES ANTICIPATE SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS, AND THAT'S OVER AND ABOVE WHAT JUST PLAIN RESIDENTIAL WOULD BRING IN.
SO THAT'S IN COMPARISON TO WHAT THE SITE IS NOW, WHICH IS COMPLETELY VACANT.
CAN YOU GIVE ME TWO OR THREE SPECIFIC WAYS THAT THESE PROPOSALS WOULD BENEFIT THE CITY OF AVONDALE AND ITS CITIZENS? HOW WOULD THESE CHANGES BE MORE BENEFICIAL THAN LEAVING THE PLANS AND ZONING AS IS RESIDENTIAL? S SO I CAN SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, MARKET CONDITIONS HAVE BASICALLY RENDERED THE SITE VACANT.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN NO MOVEMENT ON POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT SITE, BE IT A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS COME IN WITH, WHICH IS A DATA CENTER PROJECT.
UM, OUR COMPARISON IS THAT WHERE THE SITE TO REMAIN VACANT, THERE'S NO, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING.
WHEREAS WHEN THE DATA CENTER COMES IN, IN THE FUTURE AS WE EXPECT IT TO, UM, THERE WILL BE IMPROVEMENTS IN TAX REVENUE AND PROPERTY VALUE THAT'S CREATED BY THAT.
SO THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY, UH, COMPARISON WE CAN MAKE AT THIS TIME JUST BECAUSE OF HOW, UH, THOSE ENTITLEMENTS ARE SET UP.
UM, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO HOW ANY POTENTIAL TAX REVENUE WOULD BE UTILIZED.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF OUTSIDE THE, THE SCOPE OF THIS, BUT OKAY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR FOLLOW UPS? UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I, IF I MAY, UM, YOU DO HAVE FINDINGS IN YOUR STAFF REPORT THAT REALLY GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF, UM, HOW THE PROJECT SUPPORTS THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE LONG-TERM VISION.
MM-HMM,
HAS THE CITY CONSIDERED OR BECOME CONCERNED WITH THE LOSS OF THE AGRICULTURAL LAND? UM, THIS WAS A DAIRY PRIOR TO THIS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS MOVING FORWARD THAT WE'RE LOSING OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE DAIRIES OR AGRICULTURAL USE ON SOME OF THESE PLOTS? UH, MOVING INTO THE FUTURE? OBVIOUSLY ONCE YOU REMOVE A FARM, IT'S GONE FOR GOOD.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S A, A THOUGHT PROCESS ON THE CITY'S PART.
SO OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DAIRY FARM'S NO LONGER OPERATING.
UM, THIS AREA AS IT KIND OF HINTED AT BEFORE, HAS BEEN ENTITLED FOR SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT ANALYSIS WOULD'VE BEEN DONE WHEN THAT REZONE OCCURRED.
UM, AS FAR AS THIS IS THIS MEETING, UH, WE'RE LOOKING PRIMARILY AT THE TRANSITION FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO A DATA CENTER AND HOW THAT BENEFITS, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND FURTHERS THE GENERAL PLAN.
SO IT WASN'T A CONSIDERATION NECESSARILY ON, UH, THE LOSS OF AGRICULTURAL LAND, RATHER JUST A CHANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO BUSINESS PARK.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? HELLO, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS AGAIN FOR YOUR RECORDS.
MY NAME IS CAROLYN OBER HOLZER.
I'M WITH BERGEN CREEK SOMALIAN, OBER, HOLZER AT 43 43 EAST CAMELBACK.
AND VERY HAPPY TO BE BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, FOR ALL OF THE THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS YOU'VE ALREADY POSED TO STAFF AND JOSH FOR ALL OF HIS ANSWERS.
UM, WE CAN SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THAT.
I DID HAVE A GRAPHIC I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW OF JUST AN AERIAL, A HISTORIC AERIAL AND, AND INTRODUCE YOU GUYS TO NICK VANDER WAY.
UM, SORRY, I WAS JUST GONNA GRAB THAT.
I COULD JUST CLICK THROUGH THOSE.
SO A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UM, HAVE BEEN HITTING ON, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE HISTORY AND, AND THE AG USES.
AND SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR NICK TO EXPLAIN KIND OF HIS FAMILY'S HISTORY IN AVONDALE AND ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS A GRAPHIC THAT, OH, YOU CAN'T SEE.
THAT SHOWS SOME OF THAT HISTORY.
SO NICK, IF YOU WOULD COME TO THE MIC, INTRODUCE YOURSELF, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 5 2 0 2 SOUTH
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RA WAY, UH, BUCKEYE, ARIZONA, 8 5 3 2 6.UH, MY BROTHERS AND I OWN THE SITE AND OPERATE THE DAIRY, STILL OPERATING IT.
WE JUST, WE'VE REDUCED THE SCOPE FROM OUR PREVIOUS TENANT AND TRYING TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
AND SO IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL COWS THERE, THERE'S STILL TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING MOVING AROUND.
UM, SO YEAH, WE HAVE, YOU CAN SEE IN, IN THE 1979, THERE WAS A DAIRY THERE, UH, WHERE THERE'S STILL A HOUSE AND A SCALE STILL THERE.
UM, AND SO THEN YOU CAN JUST SEE AS IT GOES THROUGH 2002, IT, IT GOT BIGGER.
2006, WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY IN 2014.
UM, OUR DAD CAME TO AVONDALE IN 1964 AND, UM, WAS OPERATING A DAIRY ON A HUNDRED 19TH SOUTH OF, UH, SOUTHERN, RIGHT NEAR THE RIVER BOTTOM IN 1966 WHEN THE FLOODS CAME, CHUCK LAKEN, GENE FLEMING, JUST AREA FARMERS ALL HELPED MOVE THE CATTLE UP OUT OF THE FLOOD.
AND, UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY THERE.
AND THEN THE DAIRY, THAT DAIRY THAT'S SHOWN IN THE 1979 PICTURE THERE, WHICH IS ADJACENT AND HAS NOW BEEN TORN DOWN, BUT IT'S NEXT TO THE CURRENT DAIRY, WAS MY BROTHER'S FIRST, UH, DAIRY THAT HE WORKED ON WHEN HE GOT OUTTA COLLEGE IN 1992.
AND THAT DAIRY THE WHOLE TIME HAS, WAS A, UH, NOT ONLY DID THEY MILK THE COWS, BUT THEY BOTTLED THE MILK THERE.
AND SO WE HAD TRUCKS AND DELIVERY AND EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING THERE.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME.
UM, WE BUILT OUR DAIRY IN, IN BUCKEYE IN 1998, AND WE'VE OPERATE BOTH, SO THANK YOU.
I THOUGHT SOME OF THAT HISTORY WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO WITH THE AERIALS, BECAUSE THAT HARD CORNER, THE CORNER OF LOWER BUCKEYE AND AVONDALE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE 2006 PICTURE THERE'S A CIRCULAR RACETRACK THAT WAS A, A HORSE, UH, FARM AND A, A RACING OPERATION.
AND THEY SOLD THAT, UM, AND THEY MOVED I, I BELIEVE TO WILCOX.
SO THEN YOU CAN SEE THEN IT GOES INTO AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION AFTER THAT.
SO THE CORNER RIGHT NOW IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL.
THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THAT PAD.
AND SO THE, THE BULK OF THIS IS ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, BUT BECAUSE IT IS STILL IN A, AN AGRICULTURAL OPERATION, IT HAS VERY FAVORABLE TAX TREATMENT IN THE FORM OF THEY DON'T PAY VERY MANY TAXES.
AND SO ONE OF THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO, TO THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE CITY, UM, USUALLY RESIDENTIAL, UH, CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTES TO THE CITY IN THE FORM OF TAXES AND, AND, AND, UH, PEOPLE TAX BASE, BUT ALSO TAKES SERVICES IN, IN A GREATER DEGREE THAN OTHER TYPES OF PROJECTS IN THE FORM OF POLICE, FIRE, UH, AND WATER AND SEWER.
AND SO THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A, UM, REDUCTION IN A LOT OF SERVICES.
UH, IT IS A REDUCTION IN TRIPS HAS BEEN COVERED, BUT ALSO, UM, THE LIMIT OF USES IN THE DATA CENTER PORTION, THE 212 ACRE PORTION, IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON DATA CENTER USE.
AND THAT USE IS SPECIFICALLY LIMITED IN THIS PAD TO REQUIRING THE LOW WATER TECHNOLOGY.
AND SO WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO, IF WE GO TO THE SITE PLAN, AND I'M GONNA USE A COMBINED SITE PLAN THAT ALSO SHOWS THE, UM, HERMOSA SOUTH CAMPUS AND FLIP IT OVER TO THE SCREEN POTENTIALLY, UH OH, JOSH HELP.
ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT, YEAH, WELL THAT ONE IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ONE OVER OR WHICHEVER SITE PLAN.
WHEN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE BUILDINGS, EACH BUILDING USES ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF WATER BECAUSE BOTH CAMPUSES ARE RESTRICTED TO THIS SAME TECHNOLOGY OR EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT 10 HOMES PER BUILDING.
SO THE WATER USE REDUCTION IS TREMENDOUS WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL USER.
LANDSCAPING IS LANDSCAPING, SO IT DOESN'T MATTER THE USER WHEN WE LANDSCAPE IT, WE'RE GONNA STILL HAVE A WATER USE OUT THERE.
AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL CENTER, WE'RE INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE COMMERCIAL CENTER BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK SOUTH OF THE I 10 ON AVONDALE BOULEVARD, VAN BUREN HAS A, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF VAN BUREN AND AVONDALE BOULEVARD HAS A SITE THAT COULD HANDLE A GROCERY SITE, UM, AND ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR IT.
YOU NEED BETWEEN 18 AND 22 ACRES FOR A TYPICAL GROCER ANCHORED CENTER.
THERE ISN'T ONE ANYWHERE ALL THE WAY TO THE MOUNTAINS
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SOUTH OF VAN BUREN.SO THIS SITE HAS THE POTENTIAL AND HAS THE, UM, DEMAND TO COMMISSIONER STANFORD'S QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE WE WORKING WITH? SO IN THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE BOTH THE END USER FOR THE DATA CENTER CAMPUS.
ITS SINGLE DEVELOPER FOR THE WHOLE CAMPUS, AND THEN A DEVELOPER FOR THE COMMERCIAL SITE.
THE DATA CENTER CAMPUS IS UNDER ONE OPERATOR.
THE COMMERCIAL SITE WILL BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER, AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH GROCERS CURRENTLY.
THE GROCERS ARE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN THIS SITE AND, AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ALSO, UM, WITH YOUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM IN THE CITY.
SO THE THESE TWO USES TOGETHER ON THIS SITE.
WHEN YOU TRANSFORM AND YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AGRICULTURAL USES AND THE REVENUES GENERATED FROM THAT VERSUS A PROJECT LIKE THIS, UM, YOU DON'T GET THIS OPPORTUNITY OFTEN.
AND THE REASON WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY AT THIS LOCATION IS BECAUSE OF THE RED SUBSTATION.
IT'S AN, IT'S A POWERHOUSE, LITERALLY, UM, DUAL LOCATED WITH SRP AND A PS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, UH, A LOT IN THE NEWS IS, YOU KNOW, POWER BEING OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE IN DRIVING OUR ECONOMY RIGHT NOW.
AND SRP HAS THE POWER FOR THIS USE.
AND SO WE, THEY, THEY'RE CLOSELY COORDINATED, BUT WE NEED TO BE CLOSELY TO THEM IN PROXIMITY.
AND SO YOU HAVE VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES WHERE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
CONVERSELY, IT IS DIFFICULT TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL RIGHT AROUND A SUBSTATION.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE SUBSTATION.
AND SO WITH THE ADDITION OF THE SETBACKS, UM, I KNOW COMMISSIONER WARREN HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE PLANTINGS THAT'S ON PAGE 23 OF THE PAD.
AND THERE'S A SCHEDULE IN THERE THAT DETAILS THE, UM, PLANTING FREQUENCY FOR THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THE, THERE'S THE 35 FEET THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE EASTERNMOST WALL OF CANTATA RANCH, AND THEN THERE'S THE 35 FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 180 FOOT POWER CORRIDOR.
UM, I'VE GOTTA TURN MY GLASSES ON HERE, BUT THE, UM, THE PLANTING FOR THAT IS 1 24 INCH BOX TREE PLANTED FOR EVERY 15 FEET OF LI LINEAL FRONTAGE.
UH, THEY MAY BE PLANTED OFFSET FROM EACH OTHER AND IN GROUPINGS TO MINIMIZE DEVELOPMENT VISIBILITY FROM THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE WEST AS APPROVED BY THE CITY AND SITE PLAN REVIEW.
SO WHEN YOU SPACE THE TREES 15 FEET APART, YOU'RE GONNA GET A CANOPY THAT'S CONTINUOUS ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF THAT, UM, SCREENING AREA.
AND SO THAT SHOULD YIELD A VERY DENSE SCREEN WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY REACH FULL MATURITY.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, I THINK I TOUCHED ON, I HOPE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAD, UM, SUPPORTING JOSH'S ANSWERS.
IF THERE ARE OTHERS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
WE HAVE OUR TEAM HERE AND, UM, IF, IF AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT THERE ARE REMAINING QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO ADDRESS THOSE.
COMMISSIONERS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
THE DATA CENTERS AND THE TAX REVENUE THAT THEY WOULD GENERATE, HOW IS THAT GENERATED? DO THEY JUST GET LIKE A FLAT FEE OR, YOU KNOW, HOW IS, HOW IS THAT DONE? 'CAUSE THE GROCERY, WE KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE PRIMARILY LIKE A RETAIL TAX.
SO THE TAXING HAPPENS ON A COUPLE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
FIRST, UM, THERE'S THE PROPERTY TAX, RIGHT, THAT YOU, YOU CHANGE NOW INTO A DEVELOPED CONDITION.
SO THE ASSESSED VALUE WILL CHANGE AS A RESULT WHEN YOU CHANGE THAT ASSESSED VALUE, IT NOT ONLY HELPS THE CITY OF AVONDALE, BUT ALL OF THE OTHER SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS THAT WE PAY ON OUR TAX BILL, INCLUDING THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
SO THE ASSESSED VALUE AND THE ADDITIONAL TAXES FLOW TO THEM.
AND THAT'S WHEN ANY PROPERTY GOES FROM AN UNDEVELOPED TO A DEVELOPMENT CONDITION.
BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS SUCH A HIGH DOLLAR VALUE THAT IT, ITS IMPACT IS FAR GREATER IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THERE.
THEN THE NEXT TOUCH POINT YOU HAVE ARE THE CONSTRUCTION SALES TAX DOLLARS THAT ARE THE ONE TIME REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED TO THE CITY.
AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE COST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THERE'S ITEMIZED, UM, COMPONENTS OF THAT THAT THEY CALCULATE A TAX AND THEY PAY ON.
THIS IS A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT TO BUILD, UM, IN THE MANY BILLIONS.
SO THIS THERE AT THAT POINT WILL BE THAT ONE TIME TAX INFLUX FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT.
THEREAFTER, WHEN THE PROJECT BECOMES OPERATIONAL, IT'S UTILITY TAXES.
AND SO BECAUSE THESE ARE POWER CONSUMERS AND BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, LOW WATER TECHNOLOGY HERE, WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSUMING POWER THAT IS GOING TO GENERATE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN REVENUE ANNUALLY TO THE CITY, UM, IN THE FORM OF UTILITY TAXES.
SO, AND I MAY HAVE MISSED ANOTHER TAX POINT AND I KNOW YOUR CITY TEAM
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OKAY, FRANCE SAYING YES, BUT I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL OF, OF THE DIRECT REVENUE TOUCH POINTS.THANK YOU THAT THAT REALLY ANSWERS A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I WAS KIND OF NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW THE TAXATION WOULD WORK.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER VERNEY, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
UH, FIRST ONE I JUST WANNA CONFIRM 150 DATA CENTER JOBS AND IT'S A 24 7 OPERATION CHAIRMAN, COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER, MCCARNEY, MCNERNEY, SORRY.
UM, THE DATA CENTER, UH, AT FULL CAPACITY EIGHT BUILDINGS IS PROJECTED TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 150 JOBS.
AND I SAY THAT APPROXIMATION BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT ONE TENANT WILL HAVE FOUR BUILDINGS AND IF ONE TENANT HAS FOUR BUILDINGS, THERE MIGHT BE FEWER EMPLOYEES BECAUSE OF THE EFFICIENCIES AROUND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY NEED ALL NEW EMPLOYEES FOR EACH BUILDING.
SO WE PROJECT THAT THE, UH, APPROXIMATE RANGE OF JOBS FOR THIS CAMPUS WOULD BE BETWEEN A HUNDRED AND 150.
AND SALARY PROJECTIONS FOR THAT ARE, WELL, YOU KNOW, UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND AND BEYOND.
UM, AND YES, IT IS A 24 HOUR OPERATION.
SO THOSE, THAT IS A, YOU KNOW, NOT ALL 150 PEOPLE AT ONE TIME, BUT SPREAD ALL OVER A, UH, 24 HOUR SHIFT.
AND I SHOULD ALSO MENTION, UM, 'CAUSE I KNOW IT'S COME UP IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TRIPS AND THE TYPES OF, OF TRAFFIC THAT IS GENERATED BY A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS, IT IS VERY LOW.
IT'S, IT'S PEOPLE COMING TO WORK.
IT'S NOT DELIVERIES, IT'S NOT WAREHOUSE TRUCKS, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THESE AREN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, BIG SEMIS COMING IN AND OUT HERE ALL DAY LONG.
IT'S JUST PEOPLE COMING TO WORK.
AND MY SECOND QUESTION, UH, YOU ARE A BIG POWER CONS, AH, I CAN'T TALK, UH, BIG POWER CONSUMER.
UH, ARE THERE ANY PLANS FOR SOLAR, UH, ON THESE BUILDINGS? UH, THERE NOT, THAT IS NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION.
AT SITE PLAN THERE, THEY DO PUT A LOT OF, UM, EQUIPMENT ON TOP OF THE BUILDINGS FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT.
SO TYPICALLY SOLAR IS NOT ON THE TOP OF THESE BUILDINGS 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT EQUIPMENT ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDINGS.
HOWEVER, UM, UH, A MAJOR FEATURE OF, YOU KNOW, OUR DEVELOPMENT HERE IS THIS BATTERY STORAGE CAMPUS HERE.
AND, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE NOT ON COMMISSION, THIS WAS A FEW YEARS AGO, WE CAME THROUGH AND GOT THIS, UH, SIERRA AUSTRALIA ENERGY STORAGE PROJECT APPROVED.
UM, THAT IS GOING TO, THAT TAKES THE OFF, UH, PEAK POWER, IT STORES IT SO THAT IT CAN BE DEPLOYED BACK OUT INTO THE GRID, UM, WHEN IT'S DARK.
YOU KNOW, ALL THE EXCESS POWER THAT'S GENERATED FROM SOLAR AT NIGHT, EXCESS POWER THAT'S GENERATED FROM WHATEVER SOURCE.
UH, SO THAT IS ALSO A PART OF THIS CAMPUS, BUT IT IS NOT, UH, A PART OF THIS PHASE OF THIS.
HOWEVER, IF THE, UM, SUBSTATION NEEDED A BATTERY STORAGE COMPONENT THAT ALSO WOULD BE AN ACCESSORY USE TO ONLY DATA CENTER THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SO THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT AT SOME POINT THAT COULDN'T BE INTRODUCED A, A BATTERY PROJECT.
UM, THE, THE ONE THAT IS OUT THERE ALREADY IS ALREADY CONNECTED INTO THE SYSTEM, OR IT WILL BE BY JUNE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, AND YOU WERE MENTIONING TAX BENEFITS.
UH, IT SEEMS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WOULD BENEFIT TAX WISE FROM THIS, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, YES.
MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS NOT ONLY IN THE DIRECT BENEFIT OF THE SECONDARY, THE INCREASE OF, YOU KNOW, 200 AND SOMEWHAT ACRES GOING FROM AG PRODUCTION INTO OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
BUT BECAUSE THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE SO HIGH, THAT ALSO HELPS TO INCREASE THE BONDING CAPACITY OF ALL OF THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS THAT MUNICIPAL BONDING CAPACITY AS WELL RELATED TO, UM, THAT ASSESSED VALUE.
'CAUSE THAT'S, THAT IS THAT CAPACITY IS DERIVED FROM THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WOULD IT BE FAIR TO CONCLUDE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM THE TAXES, BUT THERE'LL BE NO CHILDREN IN SCHOOL HERE THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE SCHOOLING FOR? THAT IS FAIR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU MA'AM.
AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM AND I HAVE SOME REQUESTS TO SPEAK FROM THE PUBLIC.
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BOBBY MARTIN PLEASE.UM, YOU, OH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
USUALLY WHEN BIG BUSINESSES COME INTO A TOWN, THEY GET TAX BREAKS.
THEY DON'T USUALLY GENERATE A LOT OF TAXES BECAUSE THEY GET BREAKS FOR COMING INTO A TOWN.
SO WHAT ARE THE TAX BREAKS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET AND HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE CITY OF AVONDALE? UM, MY OTHER CONCERN IS WE'RE TALKING 50 FEET.
I LIVE IN DEL RIO RANCH, SO WHEN I LOOK OUT MY BACKYARD, I SEE THE MOUNTAINS.
SO 50 FEET TALL PLUS ANOTHER 25 OR 30 FEET OF NETTING YOU HAVE NOW JUST RUINED A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT, I MEAN, WE'VE ALL LIVED THERE.
I RECOGNIZE SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS FOR 15, 16, 17 YEARS.
YES, WE NEED GROCERY STORES, WE NEED IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE DON'T NEED A BIG HUGE BUILDING IN OUR BACKYARD.
UM, WE HAVE SO MANY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW GOING IN GOODYEAR AND AVONDALE AND IT'S RUINING THE LOOK OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S NO LONGER LIKE A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOW BECOMING BIG BUSINESS AND IT'S TAKING AWAY EVERYTHING FROM OUR FAMILIES.
WE NEED PARKS, WE NEED LOCAL BUSINESSES, WE NEED THINGS THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR NEIGHBORS, NOT A DATA CENTER, WHICH USUALLY CAPS AT ABOUT 30 PEOPLE.
DATA CENTERS RUN ON THEIR OWN.
UM, IT TAKES LIKE SOMEBODY, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE TO WATCH A MACHINE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROCESSING ON THEIR OWN.
THEY DON'T NEED A LOT OF STAFF.
UM, ON TOP OF THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY HIRE THEIR OWN PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO RUN IN DATA CENTERS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD BE QUALIFIED FROM THE CITY OF AVONDALE TO BE EMPLOYED THERE.
UM, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
PLEASE, PLEASE, I BEG YOU GUYS TO REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU GIVE THIS 'CAUSE I WOULD HATE TO SEE AVONDALE RUINED.
WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORS, BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.
WE DON'T NEED A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT'S 70 FEET TALL IN OUR BACKYARD.
NEXT I WOULD CALL HECTOR HERNANDEZ.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST PLEASE ASK THE AUDIENCE TO FRA REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING, UM, SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THROUGH OUR BUSINESS MEETING.
AND I ALSO FORGOT TO MENTION WHILE WE HAVE A THREE MINUTE TIMER, SO PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS HECTOR HERNANDEZ AND I'VE LIVED IN AVONDALE FOREVER.
THAT LAKE THAT YOU GUYS SEEN UP THERE IN THE PICTURE, A LITTLE TINY ONE.
SO, UH, I'VE BEEN HERE ALL MY LIFE PRETTY MUCH.
AND UH, I JUST WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW YOU NEED TO TRUST THE PROCESS.
I'VE SEEN WHEN I 10 USED TO END AT ER ROAD AND WE HAD TO GO DOWN ER ROAD AND UH, HIGHWAY 80, I WENT TO SCHOOL IN LITTLETON.
I PLANTED THOSE TREES THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE AGAINST THE FENCE.
THE FENCE USED TO BE QUITE A BIT OF, THEY HAD TO MOVE IT BACK.
WHEN WE PLANTED 'EM, WE PLANTED 'EM IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR FIELD.
WE'RE LIKE, WHY ARE WE PLANTING THESE TREES? WE DIDN'T KNOW.
UH, HIGHWAY 85, I EXPANDED BUCKEYE ROAD AND UH, IT GOT BIGGER AND THAT'S WHY THEY, WE PLANTED THOSE TREES WHERE THEY'RE AT.
SO I'VE SEEN AVONDALE GROW, I'VE SEEN IT.
AND ACTUALLY A LOT OF THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE, THEY BLOCK MY VIEW.
I WISH THEY WOULD'VE NEVER BEEN THERE, BUT I NEEDED TO TRUST THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, AND UH, JUST LIKE, UH, ME AND THE REST OF US, THEY LIVED HERE ALL OUR LIVES.
WE'VE SEEN THE GREAT THINGS THAT HAVE COME TO AVONDALE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT MADE AVONDALE A LOT BETTER.
BACK THEN, THERE WAS ONLY TWO HIGH SCHOOLS HERE IN THIS AREA, WHICH WAS TALLEST AND AA.
NOW WE GOT LA JOLLA, WE GOT A BUNCH OF OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS, WHICH IS GREAT.
IT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
SO I BELIEVE THAT UM, THAT THIS WOULD BE GREAT FOR ALL OF US.
WE HAVE, UH, OVER 256 MEMBERS.
I'M WITH THE CARPENTERS UNION.
AND UH, WE LIVE HERE IN AVONDALE.
SO YOU ASKED, UM, THE WAY THAT UH, THIS DATA CENTER WILL SUPPORT THE CITY OF AVONDALE.
IT WILL SUPPORT IT BY ALLOWING ITS CITIZENS THAT LIVE HERE TO WORK HERE INSTEAD OF TRAVELING ACROSS TOWN.
WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS, BUT THEY COULDN'T SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC.
THEY'RE STUCK ON, ON, ON THE I 10.
AND YOU GUYS SEEN HOW I 10 GETS.
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THIS WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY AND IT WILL PUT QUITE A BIT OF CARPENTERS TO WORK AND NOT ONLY CARPENTER, OTHER TRADE MEN.AND I BELIEVE THAT, UH, I'M FOR THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I BELIEVE STRONGLY IT'S GONNA MAKE AVONDALE A LOT BETTER.
AND YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT VIEWS, I BUILT MY HOUSE RIGHT OVER THERE AND SOMEBODY BUILT A TWO STORY HOUSE RIGHT BEHIND THAT.
SORRY, I LOST ALL MY VIEW AND I'M, NAH, OKAY.
BUT WE NEED TO TRUST THE PROCESS AND THE PROCESSES IS COMING DATA CENTER, HEY, LET'S WELCOME IT.
IT'S GONNA BRING A LOT OF JOBS.
A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS ARE GONNA DRIVE OR THEY'RE GONNA RIDE THEIR BICYCLES TO WORK, WHICH IS GONNA CUT DOWN ON TRAFFIC.
AND THESE DATA CENTERS, THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I WOULD NOW LIKE TO CALL KEN MARTIN TO THE PODIUM.
UH, MR. UH, CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.
UM, AS A RESIDENT, LIKE MY WIFE BOBBY, I FEEL PASSIONATE, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE QUALITY OF AVONDALE.
UM, AS RESIDENTS AND SPEAKING TO MANY RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, MYSELF DOING A SURVEY AROUND MY AREA.
I LIVE IN DEL RIO RANCH, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF THIS.
WE SEE THAT DAIRY FARM BASICALLY RIGHT OUT OF OUR BACKYARD.
UM, THESE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE 50 FEET TALL IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
I LOOKED AT VIEW FOUR AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT VIEW FOUR IS A VERY ACCURATE DEPICTION OF WHAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GET WHEN THEY PUT 50 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS THERE.
I THINK THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO TAKE TIME TO GO TO THE PROPERTY AND SEE WHAT 50 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS LOOK LIKE ALONG LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY VALUABLE TO YOU GUYS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BIG, A BIG PART OF YOUR DECISION MAKING.
UM, WE'RE TALKING 200 PLUS ACRES THAT, THAT, THAT ACREAGE WITH LOW DENSITY AND MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING WOULD RAISE MILLIONS IN TAX REVENUE AS WELL IF YOU BROKE IT UP EVEN TO QUARTER ACRE PLOTS, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT OUR TOWN AS WELL.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS IT'S BEING PRESENTED AS A CAMPUS AND UM, THE DEFINITION, IF YOU LOOK UP DEFINITION OF A CAMPUS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE VARIANCE BOARD THAT'S ON LOWER BUCKEYE ROAD, WE AS RESIDENTS PERCEIVED IT AS A SCHOOL.
WE THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING A, LIKE A UNIVERSITY TYPE SETTING OVER THERE.
THEN WE FOUND OUT IT WAS A BUSINESS PARK COMMERCIAL, A VARIANCE.
UM, I SAW VIEW FOUR OF THE HOMES THAT THEY PRESENTED DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PERSPECTIVE OF THOSE HOMES, THEY MADE THOSE HOMES LOOK 50 FEET TALL.
THEY MADE THE DATA CENTERS LOOK SMALL AND THEY PUT THE TREES THERE TO KIND OF BUFFER IT.
I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO TO THE QUALITY OF OUR TOWN.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF PROS THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONS THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ARE GONNA AFFECT US, THE RESIDENTS WE LIVE HERE, IT'S OUR HOME AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS FOREVER ONCE WE DO THIS.
THIS IS A REALLY BIG DECISION.
SO I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO PUT THAT ON YOUR SHOULDERS AND SAY, IS THIS REALLY GONNA BENEFIT AVONDALE? I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT THIS, I UNDERSTAND THEIR, THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME AS IT RELATES TO THE POWER CENTER AND I UNDERSTAND HOW BAD THEY WANT THIS, BUT WE LIVE HERE AND I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
IT'S OUR BACKYARD AND OUR CHILDREN.
WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN.
IS IT THE BEST THING TO DO? I FEEL NOT.
I AM, I'M GONNA BUTCHER THIS NAME, I'M SORRY, BUT I'LL CALL BLAA TURK.
I'M PART OF THE CARPENTER UNION AND UH, I'M UH, IN FAVOR TO BUILD THIS PROJECT 'CAUSE UM, I'M LIVING IN THIS AREA AND TECHNICALLY I HAVE ALMOST TWO YEARS.
WORKING ON A DATA CENTER IS MEA SO FOR ME IT'S LIKE THREE HOURS DRIVE EVERY DAY.
IT'S NOT EASY TO DRIVE THREE HOURS PLUS HOURS I SPEND WORKING.
IT'S A BUNCH OF MY SISTERS AND BROTHER IN THE SAME SITUATION.
AND THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE PERFECT FOR US TO HAVE A, A WORK IN THE AREA WHERE WE LIVE.
UH, AND THAT WAY WE CAN SPEND MORE TIME WITH THE FAMILY AND, UH, IT LIKE IT SEE THE CITY WHERE WE LIVE, UH, GROWING.
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RECEIVE ANY MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK? THANK YOU CHAIR.UH, I DID RECEIVE ONE MORE REQUEST TO SPEAK, UM, FOR DESIREE CONTRERAS.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK OR? YES.
UM, JUST TO START OUT WITH, I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE ALSO.
UM, I HAVE FAMILY, OH, CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MIC? SORRY.
I HAD FAMILY THAT FARMED IN TOLLESON.
UM, TO ME THE CHANGES ARE NOT FOR THE BETTER.
WE'RE TURNING INTO AN INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF A SLEEPY TOWN.
UM, AND TO ADDRESS THE HEIGHT SINCE EVERYBODY WAS SO CONCERNED WITH THE HEIGHT.
SO ORIGINALLY WE WERE TOLD 50 FEET.
NOW IT'S BEEN UP TO WHAT, 70 FEET? A TYPICAL TWO STORY HOME IS ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 25 FEET TALL.
SO CAN YOU IMAGINE TWO TO THREE, TWO STORY HOMES STACKED ON TOP OF EACH OTHER? THE VISUAL THAT THEY PROVIDED WAS DECEPTIVE BECAUSE THE TWO STORY HOMES WERE SHOWN RIGHT UP AGAINST THE ROAD.
AND YOU WOULD BE STANDING RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE SIDEWALK ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE ROAD TAKING THE PICTURES.
MY, OUR HOME IS IN DEL RIO RANCH AND WE FACE LOWER BUCKEYE.
WE WILL BE ACTUALLY FACING, OUR BACKYARD WILL BE FACING THE NEW, UM, UH, CENTER.
A TWO STORY HOME WOULD NOT BLOCK OUR VIEW FROM THAT.
UM, ALSO, I TRIED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON IT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF, A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS LACKING AS FAR AS WHO THE, UH, BUILDER IS.
IS IT PRIME DATA CENTERS? OH, UM, WE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, I THINK IT'S PRIME DATA CENTERS AND I DID SOME RESEARCH AND UM, LET'S SEE HERE.
SO THE DATA CENTERS USE UP, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH MY SCRIBBLES.
UH, UP TO 150 MEGAWATTS OF ENERGY.
I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ENERGY.
MY CONCERN ABOUT THE BACKUP AND ALL THAT, MY CONCERN IS LIVING HERE MY WHOLE LIFE IN THE SUMMER, WE'VE HAD MANY BLACKOUTS AND WITH ALL THE DATA CENTERS AND LOGISTICS CENTERS AND EVERYTHING THAT ARE GOING IN, SUCKING ALL THIS POWER OUT BECAUSE THAT 150 MEGAWATTS OF ENERGY IS THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT A SMALL CITY WOULD USE.
AND WITH ALL THAT, ALL THIS ENERGY BEING SUCKED OUT DURING THE SUMMERTIME WITH EVERYBODY RUNNING THEIR AC SYSTEMS, I'M WORRIED THAT THAT'S GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD.
MAYBE NOT NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE.
AND ALSO THERE'S BEEN, EXCUSE ME, UH, DATA CENTERS IN CHANDLER THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
THEY PRODUCE A LOW HUM, WHICH THE BRAIN HAS TROUBLE FILTERING OUT AND THEY'RE UM, AND SEVERAL BUILDINGS COMBINED AMPLIFY THAT.
AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ILLNESS IN CHANDLER JUST FROM THAT.
I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN EVERYTHING.
I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THAT, BUT IT DOES SEVERAL THINGS TO YOUR HEALTH.
AND UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE? UH, UM, ALSO TAX REVENUE.
TAX REVENUE WOULD BE GENERATED BY ANYTHING THAT'S BUILT THERE.
THERE'S NO TAX REVENUE RIGHT NOW AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE FARM.
AND I LOVE THE FARM, BUT I KNOW IT'S GOTTA GO.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE RETIRE, GET OLD.
UM, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S BUILT THERE IS GONNA PRODUCE REVENUE.
UM, AND ALSO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHY IT HAS TO BE THERE.
WHY CAN'T IT BE BUILT IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA? WE HAVE DATA CENTER RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD OR THAT'S GOING UP AT LITCHFIELD AND IS IT LOWER BUCKEYE OR SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY? UM, THERE'S LIKE TONS OF SPACE AROUND THE AIRPORTS.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF LOGISTICS CENTERS, AMAZON, EVERYTHING ELSE.
WHY WOULD IT BE BETTER SUITED OVER THERE INSTEAD OF BEING IN OUR BACKYARD? AND UM, I'M GONNA HAVE TO ASK YOU TO WRAP IT UP YOUR TIME.
SO, AND THEN ALSO I WOULD JUST LIKE EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT IF THEIR HOME WAS FACING THAT AND IT WAS BEING BUILT RIGHT BEHIND YOU, HOW YOU WOULD FEEL ABOUT IT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK? CHAIRMAN? I WOULD, UM, CHAIRMAN, I WOULD ASK IF YOU COULD ASK IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT CARDS.
WE HAVE NO MORE COMMENT CARDS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? I SEE TWO, MAYBE THREE HANDS.
GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD MA'AM.
AND THEN SIR, WE'LL TAKE YOU NEXT.
AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, REPRESENT AND SHARE THAT THE BUILDER IS ACTUALLY I I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AND, UM, I'M IMP HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH HOW THE BUILDER HAS ACTUALLY SOLICITED A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL
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FEEDBACK.SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR, I'M GONNA GUESS A YEAR AND A HALF, TWO YEARS.
TWO YEARS, WHERE THEY HAVE CONSISTENTLY REF UM, REQUESTED RESIDENTS FEEDBACK.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAD WAS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING AND BROUGHT THAT TO THE BUILDER'S ATTENTION.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT CONVERSATION, THEY TOOK THE SETBACKS INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO I THINK THE BUILDERS ARE REALLY TRYING TO TAKE THE RESIDENTS INTO CONSIDERATION AND REALLY DESIGN THIS WITH THE RESIDENTS IN MIND.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE NEED A NEW GROCERY STORE OVER IN THAT AREA.
AND THE POINT IS MADE THAT ANO THERE'S NOT THE LAND TO DO ANOTHER ONE.
AND, AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF MORE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY COMING UP IN THAT AREA.
SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED NEW HOMES THERE 'CAUSE THAT WHOLE AREA IS BEING BUILT UP WITH THOUSANDS OF NEW HOMES.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A GROCERY STORE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE NEWEST HOMES COMING IN.
AND, AND BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK, IT'S NOT GONNA BLOCK THE MOUNTAINS, I THINK, AS MUCH AS IT'S PERCEIVED TO BLOCK THE MOUNTAINS.
'CAUSE THE HOUSES ARE GONNA BE CLO FURTHER TO THE STREET, WHICH IS GONNA BE HIGHER, WHICH IS GONNA HAVE A GREATER, UM, UH, BLOCKING OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE VIEW AND THE, AND THE CONCERNS THAT INDIVIDUALS HAVE.
SO I, I JUST, THE SETBACKS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE CON SETBACK.
OH, AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TWO PATHS ON LOWER BUCKEYE.
I THINK THAT THAT IS OTHER, ANOTHER BENEFIT TO RESIDENTS.
SO BE A SIDEWALK AND A WALKING PATH.
I FORGET EXACTLY WHAT THEY CALL IT, BUT WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GONNA GET THAT WITH RESIDENTIAL WITH THIS.
WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE REQUESTS TO SPEAK CARDS.
UM, IF SONYA CONTRERA CAN PLEASE, UH, COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
HELLO, MY NAME IS SONYA CONTRARES.
UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF AVONDALE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS NOW.
UM, I HAVE SMALL CHILDREN AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHY DOES IT TAKE A DATA CENTER FOR US TO HAVE A GROCERY STORE OR ACTUALLY SOMETHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AVONDALE? UH, ANYTIME WE HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, WE SPEND OUR MONEY IN OTHER CITIES, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND MY MONEY HERE WHERE I LIVE.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN ANSWER IS, WITH THIS TAX REVENUE, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT MY PROPERTY TAXES? UM, I'M A SINGLE PARENT AND MY CONCERN IS, ARE MY PROPERTY TAXES GOING TO INCREASE BECAUSE OF THIS DATA CENTER? AND WHAT DOES THAT DO TO MY, MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT? YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE TOUGH RIGHT NOW, UH, FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES.
AND SO HOW IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT MY MONTHLY, MY MONTHLY LIVING? UM, I THINK THAT WE DESERVE BETTER IN THIS, IN THIS CITY.
I THINK AVONDALE HAS SUCH GREAT POTENTIAL TO BE A PLACE WHERE FAMILIES WANT TO LIVE.
WE REALLY HAVE NOTHING IN AVONDALE TO DO OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, WE GO TO THE MAIN EVENT, BUT THAT'S PACKED EVERY WEEKEND.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO DO FOR FAMILIES.
SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING TO OTHER CITIES AND I WOULD LIKE TO DO STUFF WHERE I LIVE SO MY KIDS CAN GROW UP WITH THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, AND VOLUNTEER AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IF SOMEBODY CAN ADDRESS MY QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE PROPERTY TAXES AND HOW THAT WOULD INCREASE MY PROPERTY TAX, WHAT THAT DOES TO MY MORTGAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WILL THESE CARPENTERS HAVE JOBS FOR? YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT FOR THEM, UH, THAT THEY CAN HAVE JOBS, BUT HOW, HOW LONG IS IT JUST FOR THE DURATION OF THEM BUILDING? OR WILL THAT, YOU KNOW, GO, GO FURTHER FOR THEM? SO I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT, A 70 FOOT BUILDING ON THE CORNER OF THAT MAIN ROAD.
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OPTIONS FOR, UH, BEING OUT WITH OUR FAMILIES.
THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED OUT HERE AND I DON'T SEE HOW A HOW A DATA CENTER COULD HELP IN THAT COMMUNITY.
NEXT WE HAVE GEORGE CONTRERAS.
HAVE EITHER OF YOU BEEN TO MARKET STREET IN SCOTTSDALE? NO.
MARKET STREET IN SCOTTSDALE WHERE THEY HAVE RESTAURANTS, RETAIL PLACES FOR FAMILIES TO GATHER AND ENJOY THE OUTDOORS? HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN THERE? NO.
IT'S A PLACE THAT THIS COULD TURN INTO.
IT COULD BE A DESTINATION PLACE FOR AVONDALE FOR FAMILIES TO GO ENJOY SHOPS, SMALL BUSINESSES, RESTAURANTS AND GROCERY STORE.
EVERYTHING THAT WE WOULD ALL WANT.
HOW MUCH HEAT IS THAT GONNA GENERATE IN THAT AREA WHERE THAT FARM STANDS NOW? IS IT GONNA GET A LOT HOTTER? I SEE ASPHALT, IT'S GONNA BE CONCRETE BUILDINGS AND NOW YOU HAVE LIGHTS, STREETLIGHTS, 24 7 OPERATION.
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MANY CAR ALARMS ARE WE GONNA BE BOTHERED WITH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT BECAUSE SOMEBODY BUMPED INTO THE CAR? I, I'D HAVE ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.DID ANYBODY KNOW, TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING WHERE FAMILIES CAN GO TO RESTAURANTS, RETAIL AND A PLACE TO ENJOY THAT MAGNI MAGNIFICENT VIEW OF THE AUSTRALIAN MOUNTAINS THAT WOULD FAR BENEFIT EVERYBODY IN AVONDALE RATHER THAN A DATA CENTER.
ANDERSON'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING FOR US.
WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY IT AND WORK AT THESE PLACES.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE WORKS AT AN ACTUAL DATA CENTER.
AS MY WIFE STATED, THEY'RE BUILDING THEM RIGHT BY THE AIRPORT IN GOODYEAR.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE DECIDED TO BUY THE HOUSE IN DEL RIO RANCH WAS THE VIEW.
IT'S RIGHT THERE IN OUR BACK WINDOW.
SO A 50 FOOT TO 75 FOOT TALL BUILDING.
NO, THAT IS JUST MESSED UP IN SCOTTSDALE.
THEY LOWER THE FOUNDATION SO THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL IF YOU'RE DRIVING BY A GROCERY STORE AT TIMES BECAUSE IT'S SO LOW AND DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE VIEW OF THE MOUNTAINS.
IF THEY DID THAT, THAT WOULD BE A NICE THING TO CONSIDER FOR EVERYONE THAT LIVES THERE.
I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL.
HOW IS IT GONNA BENEFIT US? IS IT GONNA RAISE OUR HOME VALUE? I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT YET.
WILL IT RAISE OUR HOME VALUE OR NOT? I DON'T KNOW.
NO ONE'S ANSWERED THAT QUESTION YET.
IS IT GONNA ADD TO OUR MONTHLY PAYMENT ON OUR HOUSE? THAT'S A HUGE NO FOR US.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WISH TO SPEAK? I I WOULD LIKE TO NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OF THE PUBLIC AND I I THINK MAYBE I CAN ANSWER A FEW OF THEM.
UM, SO ONE THAT CAME UP A FEW TIMES IS WILL THIS IMPACT MY MONTHLY PAYMENT, MY TAXES? AND I CAN SAY EMPHATICALLY NO.
IF ANYTHING, THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REDUCE TAXES BECAUSE OF THAT INCREASE OF ASSESSED VALUE THAT I REFERRED TO BECAUSE OF THE UTILITY TAXES THAT IT WILL GENERATE THAT WILL GIVE THE CITY CAPITAL TO SPEND ON ITS MAGNIFICENT PARKS FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR KIDS.
I TOLD YOU GUYS THIS BEFORE 20 YEARS AGO, AND I'VE WATCHED THIS CITY GROW AND I I'VE NEVER SEEN A CITY INVEST IN ITS PARKS SO MUCH LIKE THE CITY DOES.
THE AQUATIC CENTER THAT'S ABOUT TO OPEN BACK HERE IS INCREDIBLE.
IF I WAS A KID, I HAD TO SPEND EVERY DAY THERE.
UM, ALAMAR PARK WITH THE LAKE YOU CAN FISH IN, WHICH IS COOL.
THIS, THIS IS A CITY FOR FAMILIES FOR SURE.
THERE'S WONDERFUL AMENITIES AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE AND THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE TO MAINTAIN.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE A REVENUE GENERATOR, LIKE A DATA CENTER COMING IN THAT CAN HELP TO FUND THOSE THINGS SO THAT THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO GO OUT TO BOND ELECTIONS TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS, IT'S GOT EXTRA MONEY TO SPEND ON THE CITIZENS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LOT OF MONEY SPENT ON IT.
SO EMPHATICALLY NO NOBODY'S TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP EXCEPT FOR ON THIS PROPERTY, ON THIS DAIRY PROPERTY.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE QUESTION ABOUT PRIME DATA CENTERS, I JUST WANTED TO COVER THAT BECAUSE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION.
UM, PRIME DATA CENTERS IS ON, ON THE YELLOW, UM, AREA ON THE SCREEN, UH, THAT IS A 66 ACRE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I JUST DID, I'M SORRY, JOSH.
UM, THAT HERMOSA RANCH TECHNOLOGY CAMPUS SOUTH, UM, THAT'S A 66 ACRE CAMPUS.
THAT'S WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE DATA CENTER, UH, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THAT IS OWNED NOW BY PRIME DATA CENTERS.
THEY HAVE AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THEIR FIVE BUILDINGS.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION PROBABLY EARLY NEXT YEAR, MY UNDERSTANDING, IF NOT LATER THIS YEAR.
AND SO, UM, THOSE BUILDINGS, LIKE THESE BUILDINGS ARE APPROVED FOR A BUILDING HEIGHT OF 50 FEET.
SO THE COMMERCE PARK BUILDING HEIGHT MAXES OUT AT 35 FEET CURRENTLY.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A DEVIATION TO GO TO 50 FEET.
AND THEN IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 15 FEET FOR SCREENING.
NOW THIS IS NOT BUILDING HEIGHT, THIS IS NOT THE ROOF LINE.
THIS IS WHAT'S SET BACK FROM THE ROOF NINE WHERE YOU DO HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.
THE CITY CODE REQUIRES THAT IT BE SCREENED.
AND I TALKED EARLIER ABOUT WE NEED MORE EQUIPMENT UP THERE.
SO THAT IS WHY WE'VE ASKED FOR THE ADDITIONAL, UH, 25 FEET THAT, OR PARDON ME, YES,
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25 FEET, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE ON THE PRIME DATA CENTER CAMPUS.AND AGAIN, THAT IS ONLY FOR MECHANICAL SCREENING.
THAT IS NOT FOR BUILDING HEIGHT.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE STEPPED BACK.
AND BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED SETBACKS THAT WE DID SHOW ON ALL OF THE EXHIBITS, THAT IS THE, THE PERSPECTIVE THAT IS HARD TO ENVISION.
AND WE, WE DID THAT WITH THE VIEW CORRIDORS, WHICH ARE DROPPED IN AT THE SCALE THAT IS PROPOSED.
AND I KNOW IT SEEMS DECEPTIVE TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ENVISION WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE.
BUT THOSE ARE SCALED AND THAT WAS DROPPED IN AT THOSE PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS AND LOCATIONS.
AND SO THE FARTHER THE BUILDINGS ARE, THE SHORTER THEY APPEAR, THE CLOSER THEY ARE, THE TALLER THEY APPEAR.
AND THAT'S WHY THE PERSPECTIVE AND THE COMPARISON BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES AT 30 FEET APPEARS TO BE MUCH MORE VISUALLY IMPACTFUL.
'CAUSE THEY WOULD BE CLOSER 'CAUSE THEY WOULDN'T BE HELD TO A, A LARGE SETBACK.
UM, SO I THINK THAT THOSE WERE THE FEW QUESTIONS THAT REMAINED UNANSWERED.
IF YOU HAVE OTHERS OR IF I'VE MISSED ANY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY REMIND YOU, YOU NEED TO TAKE, UH, SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR EACH ITEM? YES MA'AM.
WE WILL TAKE THE FIRST MOTION ON ITEM FOUR A, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF APPLICATION PL 23 DAY 0 2 9 9.
FIRST WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
THE MOTION CARRIES FOUR TO ONE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
[b. Hermosa Ranch Technology Campus - North - Rezoning - Application PL-23-0300]
FOUR B IS A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF APPLICATION PL 23 DASH ZERO 300.WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
UH, AGENDA ITEM FIVE, COMMISSION ANNOUNCEMENTS.
DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TO MAKE? HEARING NONE? ITEM
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SIX, PLANNING DIVISION REPORT.UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I JUST WANNA THANK OUR AUDIENCE, UH, FOR PARTICIPATING THIS EVENING.
WE WELCOME, UM, THEIR INPUT AND, UM, WE'RE HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TODAY, COUNSEL.
UM, AND FOR THEIR INFORMATION, THE COUNCIL MEETING DATE FOR THIS ITEM IS PLANNED FOR MAY 6TH.
UM, AND THEY WILL TAKE, UM, IT, IT WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH THESE ITEMS AND YOUR INPUT AND PARTICIPATION IS WELCOMED.
AND FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION.
UM, JUST TO PROVIDE, UH, YOU AN UPDATE.
UM, WE ARE IN APRIL OF THE YEAR.
SO IN, UH, JANUARY, FEBRUARY AND MARCH WE SAW ABOUT 30, UH, NEW DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED EACH MONTH.
SO WE'VE BEEN ON A HEALTHY, STEADY PACE OF, UM, NEW REQUESTS.
UM, AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE ACTIVE APPLICATIONS WE ALREADY HAVE IN OUR QUEUE.
SO I JUST THOUGHT I'D GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THE, UH, TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WE SEE.
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SEVEN.THE CALENDAR, THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE AVONDALE PLANNING COMMISSION IS MAY 15TH, 2024.
HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
AND, UH, UH, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.